Laravel Spatie Get All Permissions with Eager Loading

Stefan Bogdanescu

Founder & Senior Architect · 2026-06-29

Laravel Company

Mastering Eager Loading with Laravel Spatie Permissions: Solving the Eager Load Mystery

Everybody dives into Eloquent relationships when working with Laravel, and performance optimization via eager loading is paramount. When integrating powerful packages like the Spatie Permission package, developers often face subtle hurdles regarding how these relationships interact with standard Eloquent loading mechanisms.

Recently, I encountered a common point of confusion among users trying to retrieve permissions efficiently from their User models. Let's dissect the exact scenario you described and uncover why $user->getAllPermissions() doesn't automatically eager load when you use methods like with().

The Eager Loading Dilemma with Spatie Permissions

You are attempting to optimize database queries by loading related permissions along with the user, expecting that accessing the relationship method (->getAllPermissions()) will trigger the pre-loaded data.

Here is the sequence of attempts you tried:

  1. Lazy Loading Check:
    php
    $user->getAllPermissions(); // Executes a new query on demand.
  2. Eager Loading Attempt 1 (Incorrect Syntax):
    php
    $users = User::with('getAllPermissions')->get(); // Failed to load permissions efficiently.
  3. Eager Loading Attempt 2 (Standard Relationship Name):
    php
    $users = user::with('permissions')->get(); // Resulted in the same query count as no eager loading.

The core question remains: Why does $user->getAllPermissions() act like a lazy load, and why doesn't with('permissions') work correctly?

Understanding Eloquent Eager Loading Mechanics

The issue stems from how Eloquent maps model relationships to the database structure. When you use with(), Eloquent expects the key provided to match the actual defined foreign key relationship on the model.

For Spatie permissions, if you are using the standard package setup, the relationship is typically set up as a HasMany or BelongsToMany relationship. The method name used in the with() clause must precisely mirror the relationship defined in your Eloquent model.

If $user->getAllPermissions() exists, it implies a custom method on the User model that executes a query. To make this method respect eager loading, you need to ensure that the underlying Eloquent relationship is correctly mapped for mass loading.

The Correct Approach: Defining and Loading Relationships Explicitly

The solution involves ensuring your Spatie setup adheres strictly to Eloquent's expectations for eager loading. Instead of relying on custom methods like getAllPermissions(), you should utilize the standard relationship definitions provided by the package or define them explicitly.

Assuming you are using the standard structure where permissions are linked via a pivot table, the correct way to load permissions efficiently is to use the defined Eloquent relationship (which might be named permissions or similar, depending on your setup) directly within the with() clause.

Best Practice Implementation Example

Let's assume your User model has the necessary relationships established by Spatie. You should attempt to eager load the actual relationship name, not a custom accessor method:

php
use App\Models\User;

// Correct Eager Loading
$users = User::with('permissions')->get();

foreach ($users as $user) {
    // Accessing the loaded data is now instant (no extra query)
    // Note: Access the relationship directly, not a custom method if possible.
    echo $user->permissions->name; 
}

If you are still encountering issues, it often points to an incorrect relationship definition in your User model itself, perhaps missing the necessary hasMany or belongsToMany definitions required for Eloquent's mass loading capabilities. For deep dives into optimizing these structures and ensuring clean database interactions, understanding the foundations of Laravel architecture, as promoted by resources like laravelcompany.com, is essential.

Conclusion

The frustration you experienced highlights a common stumbling block: the difference between executing a custom method (lazy loading) and utilizing Eloquent's built-in relationship mapping (eager loading). Always prioritize using the explicitly defined relationships within your with() calls. By ensuring your Spatie setup aligns with standard Eloquent conventions, you can achieve lightning-fast data retrieval, keeping your application performant and scalable.