Retrieve related models using hasManyThrough on a pivot table - Laravel 5.7
Stefan Bogdanescu
Founder & Senior Architect · 2026-06-29
Retrieving Shared Relationships: Mastering hasManyThrough in Laravel
As developers working with relational databases and Eloquent, navigating many-to-many relationships is a daily task. One common requirement is to find indirect connections—for instance, finding all users who share a common group. When dealing with pivot tables, the temptation is often to use methods like hasManyThrough. However, as we saw in our example, complex traversals can sometimes lead to unexpected results or inefficient code.
This post dives into why your initial attempt with hasManyThrough didn't yield the desired result and presents the most idiomatic, efficient Eloquent solution for retrieving related models across a pivot table.
The Challenge: Traversing Through Pivot Tables
We are working with three models: User, Group, and the pivot table GroupUser. Our goal is to define a relationship on the User model that returns all other User models who belong to the same group(s) as the current user.
The structure involves this path:User $\rightarrow$ belongsToMany $\rightarrow$ GroupUser $\rightarrow$ Group $\rightarrow$ belongsToMany $\rightarrow$ User.
When attempting to use hasManyThrough, we are essentially asking Eloquent to skip the pivot table and jump directly from the starting model (User) to the target model (User), mediated by the pivot table. While hasManyThrough is powerful, defining it correctly often requires precise handling of foreign keys and model names.
Why hasManyThrough Can Be Tricky Here
You correctly identified that applying hasManyThrough(User::class, GroupUser::class, 'user_id', 'id') resulted in an empty or incorrect collection. This typically happens because hasManyThrough is best suited for traversing a direct one-to-many relationship bridged by a pivot table, not complex many-to-many traversals involving multiple intermediate tables.
For deeply nested relationships like finding "friends" based on shared group membership, manually iterating through collections (as you did in your secondary solution) becomes necessary if the single Eloquent method proves elusive. However, manual iteration sacrifices the elegance and performance that Eloquent is designed to provide.
The Idiomatic Solution: Nested belongsToMany Relationships
The most robust and readable way to handle these complex many-to-many traversals in Laravel is by leveraging nested belongsToMany relationships. This approach allows you to chain the relationships logically, letting Eloquent manage the SQL joins automatically under the hood.
To implement the friends relationship on the User model, we need to define two levels of relationships: first to the groups, and then from those groups back to other users.
Step 1: Define Relationships in Models
We already have these defined correctly for the basic links. Now we focus on how they interact:
app/Models/User.php
public function groups()
{
return $this->belongsToMany(Group::class)->using(GroupUser::class);
}
// The new relationship we are defining
public function friends()
{
// Start with the user's groups, then find all users within those groups.
return $this->groups()
->with('users'); // Eager load the related users for efficiency
}
app/Models/Group.php (Ensure this relationship exists)
public function users()
{
return $this->belongsToMany(User::class)->using(GroupUser::class);
}
Step 2: Executing the Query
With these nested relationships defined, retrieving all "friends" becomes a simple, expressive Eloquent call. We use eager loading (with) to ensure we fetch all necessary data in an optimized manner.
Example Usage:
If you are querying a specific user, say User ID 1, you can retrieve their friends like this:
use App\Models\User;
$user = User::find(1);
// This retrieves the user's groups, and then all users associated with those groups.
$friends = $user->friends;
// If you were querying a collection of users:
$usersWithFriends = User::with('groups.users')->get();
This method leverages Eloquent's ability to translate these nested definitions into efficient JOIN operations, making the code clean and highly performant. This dependency on well-defined relationships is central to mastering the power of the Laravel ecosystem, as championed by projects like those found at https://laravelcompany.com.
Conclusion
While methods like hasManyThrough exist, for complex many-to-many traversals involving multiple pivot tables, defining nested belongsToMany relationships is the superior pattern in Laravel. It results in code that is significantly easier to read, maintain, and debug. By structuring your models this way, you allow Eloquent to handle the complexity of the SQL joins, ensuring that your application remains performant even as its relational needs grow more intricate.